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Re: About the RedWirez interface in Shred 1.5x

Postby gUsTaV » Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:25 pm

Ken McLaren wrote:In the end it just makes for a better product in the end.

But what happens in the end :lol:
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Re: About the RedWirez interface in Shred 1.5x

Postby Ken McLaren » Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:00 am

?
Obviously you end up with a product?
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Re: About the RedWirez interface in Shred 1.5x

Postby GonWild » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:59 am

great! I think I'm gonna jump on this suite..and 26$ is like..nothing. Seems like a very good deal :)
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Re: About the RedWirez interface in Shred 1.5x

Postby Ken McLaren » Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:08 pm

I just released the latest too.. you're timing is impeccable :)
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Re: About the RedWirez interface in Shred 1.5x

Postby gUsTaV » Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:42 pm

So how does one dl this without having to register?
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Re: About the RedWirez interface in Shred 1.5x

Postby Ken McLaren » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:03 pm

Usually one doesn't, haha
But check your pm man, its there for you..
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Re: About the RedWirez interface in Shred 1.5x

Postby gUsTaV » Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:44 am

So what's the latest on iFace?
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Re: About the RedWirez interface in Shred 1.5x

Postby pikman » Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:39 am

this is one of the best and up and coming vst software out there,it is worth the $26....believe me i have tried a lot of the other vst's out there and this is THE ONE!! .....THANK YOU KM!! ART
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Re: About the RedWirez interface in Shred 1.5x

Postby Ken McLaren » Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:02 pm

We're maybe looking at the full commercial iFace release as early as this Saturday. The freeware version will be released at the same time. I just wanted to clarify something. The pre-purchase of Head Case(Shred 2) also includes iFace built in, and as a separate VST. iFace by itself, the commercial version will be 20 USD, with a Shred pre-purchase its 25 +paypal charges = $26.35. Thats the $26 that pikman is talking about. Actually, we're including a bunch of stuff for the Head Case(Shred 2) pre-purchasers, one of them is iFace, the Filter cabs, The standard Cabs, and if there is time, MeCab(Recab interface). We were also looking at separating the effects and stomps as their own vst plugs as well. But have not decided on that either way as they are heavily intertwined in the Head case suite code.

@pikman, Thanks man, it has been an insane amount of work though..:)
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Re: About the RedWirez interface in Shred 1.5x

Postby FormSRAudio » Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:49 pm

hey Ken, post me a link or a pm or something if you need to. I've been a little out of the loop for a few months with personal stuff going on and I haven't kept up. I REALLY like this idea of the redwirez/recab hosting plugs and I would like to get get up to speed here.

It hosts the entire redwirez collection?

You might get done with one that works with recab as well?

Do you simply point it in the direction of your redwirez IR folder or do you actually load them inside a program file?

I downloaded something (months ago) that I think is one of the first versions of this, but I haven't had any time to play with it. Is this much different and should I just discard that older one at this point?

I think I saw "Freeware version" or "commercial version" above somewhere, what will be the differences.

I'm sure you answered a lot of this already, but I see that the pre-purchase is going on and I didn't want to miss out on anything that might be right around the corner.

Thanks man.

EDIT: Ok Nevermind so much. I didn't realized i wouldn't have to read through 20 pages of stuff to find most of these answers.

Like Flaming, I think I just want to cabs for now. I've got 4 or 5 Redwirez cabs and the Recab library. I don't really need the whole suite of head case and I'm moving away from using "Suites" and simply going plug by plug in my chain. Will the $20 commercial version of iFace take care of me?
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Re: About the RedWirez interface in Shred 1.5x

Postby Ken McLaren » Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:50 pm

FormSRAudio wrote:It hosts the entire redwirez collection?

Yes it does,

FormSRAudio wrote:You might get done with one that works with recab as well?

Absolutely, our version is called MeCab, not done yet, but working on it very slowly as it has less priority than some of the other 5 gazillion things I'm working on..haha

FormSRAudio wrote:Do you simply point it in the direction of your redwirez IR folder or do you actually load them inside a program file?

Yes, this is from the manual
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One thing to note, the path structure and filenames have to be the way they came from redwirez, so, you cannot rename your cab files, or their folders.

FormSRAudio wrote:I downloaded something (months ago) that I think is one of the first versions of this, but I haven't had any time to play with it. Is this much different and should I just discard that older one at this point?

That one probably only half worked, you guys know what we'r like we release stuff as public betas to you to sort of let you know what we're working on and get your thoughts as we develop. Anytime you have a public beta from us, you should discard it for the official release. There will be things that don't work in the public beta, haha hence the name beta.

FormSRAudio wrote:I think I saw "Freeware version" or "commercial version" above somewhere, what will be the differences.

The commercial version will support turning off frequencies in the Tonal Correction EQ, It will have native support for presets, and it will support the full Redwirez library.

FormSRAudio wrote:I'm sure you answered a lot of this already, but I see that the pre-purchase is going on and I didn't want to miss out on anything that might be right around the corner.

Yes you're right, that pre-purchase won't be going on forever..haha I have sort of ear marked a lot of the users from this forum to be able to take part even after its closed, though. You are one of them. I mean I have known you guys and had lots of conversations with you, of course I'm not going to deny you guys..:)

Thanks man.
FormSRAudio wrote:EDIT: Ok Nevermind so much. I didn't realized i wouldn't have to read through 20 pages of stuff to find most of these answers.

Yeah best bet is to drop me an email or a post, I'm always happy to answer, I am not one of those that gets bent out of shape for answering something more than once..:) (You know that anyways)

FormSRAudio wrote:Like Flaming, I think I just want to cabs for now. I've got 4 or 5 Redwirez cabs and the Recab library. I don't really need the whole suite of head case and I'm moving away from using "Suites" and simply going plug by plug in my chain. Will the $20 commercial version of iFace take care of me?

Yes, but, I'll make sure you and flaming get the upgrade to Head case, we'll pay the difference. I think you guys will like it because it also includes singles of the heads, Cabs and maybe the effects and Stomps.
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Re: About the RedWirez interface in Shred 1.5x

Postby FormSRAudio » Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:59 pm

Very cool and thanks for the info. iFace is going to make my day...finally an easy way to flip through IR's to audition them.

I've been working 60 to 70 hours a week for the past few months and I've promised myself I'm going to stop screwing with stuff and use the 6.731542 minutes I have free during the week to actually work on music and not tweaking. I have been successful with it so far, I just don't have enough time these days.....and it won't get better til after the new year at least.

I'm going to try and purchase the iFace as soon as I can, but it will most likely be after Christmas ( :oops: gotta see what kind of damage my wife and daughter do to my bank account before my software purchases - iFace and a few NI instruments/effects, a few plugins, possibly even an SSD library I've been eyeballing for a while, if I can get away with it).
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Re: About the RedWirez interface in Shred 1.5x

Postby Flaming » Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:54 pm

Ken McLaren wrote:Flaming, I can't make up my mind on that so I am going to put it to a vote amongst the Pre-purchase group...We'll see what they have to say.


What happend with this one, Ken?

I am really looking forward to the final release of iFace!

Can you explain me about the pre-purchase group. What is it? ? ? How does it work? ? ?
Sorry if that is dumb question... :oops:

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Re: About the RedWirez interface in Shred 1.5x

Postby Ken McLaren » Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:56 pm

Hey Flaming sorry for the late reply, I'm normally a lot quicker with my replies...
I never did bring that to a vote as I got busy with our filter cabs for Head Case and only just got back to this.

I have had a better chance t think about this now, and I think the proper way to go is as you say, make it load with default sliders to the left, or, I was also thinking about making a proper mono version of it. We could then actually expand a little more freely knowing its a dedicated mono signal.
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Re: About the RedWirez interface in Shred 1.5x

Postby Flaming » Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:27 pm

Ken McLaren wrote:I was also thinking about making a proper mono version of it. We could then actually expand a little more freely knowing its a dedicated mono signal.
KM


That would be fantastic, Ken!!!
Due to the fact that iFace is a guitar cab IR loader and a guitar is a mono signal that uses mono tracks, it is quite logical to make a mono version, because I think a mono version of the plug in will be the most useful and we as users will use mono version most of the time for cab guitars.
I can't think too many scenarios where we need to use a stereo version to feed stereo guitar tracks. (some group or send channels to feed a pair of guitars maybe)

I guess the proportion of "need of use" would be something like 90% mono, 10% stereo? ? ?
I don't know, but the idea of a mono version seems perfect to me!!!

I can't wait to try the final version and use all the redwirez cabs!!!
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Re: About the RedWirez interface in Shred 1.5x

Postby Ken McLaren » Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:48 am

Yeah I would tend to agree. So, lets just make a mono version as well. Its really not much effort to do that and will answer a lot the questions about mono.
Also, I forgot to answer you about the pre-purchase.
Basically, it sort of helps us out while we are developing in a couple ways, one is that we can have a few dollars through the process, and the most important way it helps us out is that the pre-purchasers interact in a very direct way with the entire development team including the interface designers and skinners. This way we get instant feedback from people who have a vested interest in seeing this development do well. We can't implement everything that is requested, but a lot of the new developments are there directly because of the pre-purchasers saying, hey it would be great if..Hell some of them have even named the products and knobs. We have a new knob coming out that is called the Wilburnator knob, that was a suggestion from one of the pre-puchasers...Head case has a full name now also on a suggestion from a pre-purchaser, its called Head Case GES(Guitar Environment System)

So, its a very helpful and motivating place for me to hang out with like minded individuals all focussed on the same thing...No rules, no power tripping mods, just guitar talk, development, and a wish list..
Well thats what the forum is like for me anyways...
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Re: About the RedWirez interface in Shred 1.5x

Postby Ken McLaren » Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:24 am

Flaming,
I just wanted to give you an update about the iFace release. It has been released to the pre-purchase group to make presets for it. I ran a little behind in my development schedule and have not got any presets made for it yet. So, I figured I'd let them do it.

(little behind in my development schedule) haha, story of my life!

Anyways, as soon as we have the presets done, its up for release.
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Re: About the RedWirez interface in Shred 1.5x

Postby Flaming » Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:47 am

This is really a great new Ken!!!

Thank You for keeping me updated!!!

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Re: About the RedWirez interface in Shred 1.5x

Postby Ken McLaren » Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:05 am

Flaming wrote:
This is really a great new Ken!!!



Yeah I kinda thought I was a better new Ken Too,,
haha

I know you have been looking forward to this release and I wanted to release today, but I fell behind. I didn't want to just leave you hangin..
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Re: About the RedWirez interface in Shred 1.5x

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Re: About the RedWirez interface in Shred 1.5x

Postby Grem » Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:28 pm

Ken McLaren wrote:So, its a very helpful and motivating place for me to hang out with like minded individuals all focussed on the same thing...No rules, no power tripping mods, just guitar talk, development, and a wish list..
Well thats what the forum is like for me anyways...
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Well it's like that for me too Ken!

To anyone thinking about getting the comercial release of iFace, I would suggest getting in on the Pre-Purchase of Head Case GES (formerly Shred 2). You will get iFace comercial version along with a lot of other freebies! I think the stomps alone are worth the price!! And the Standard Cabs interface allows external use of any IR. I mean the stuff that you get with this is a steal! It's like Ken and his team are giving all this stuff away for free! For $27 you can't go wrong!

@ FormSRAudio:
It is nice to be able to audition the RW IR with just a few clicks!! I have the whole RW lib and going through all of those IR without this interface I'd think would be a nightmare. Same for the Recab stuff.
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Re: About the RedWirez interface in Shred 1.5x

Postby Ken McLaren » Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:14 pm

Yeah Grem, I have a surprise coming for the Standard cabs coming too. Not tellin..you'll have to wait..haha
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Re: About the RedWirez interface in Shred 1.5x

Postby Flaming » Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:29 am

Could you clarify me about the prices, please? ? ?

The full commercial version of iFace is 20$, right?
Or is that the price only for pre purchase period of time? ? ?

And the price of 27$ is for Head Case? ? ?
I don't know what is it exactly Head Case.
What Stomps and freebies are you talking about, Grem? ? ?
And what exactly is "inside" the buying of Head Case? ? ?
I'm really curious now!!!
Can I try them as iFace now? ? ?

And those 27 bucks are for pre purchase only? ? ?

When will it finish the pre-purchase period of time? ? ?

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Re: About the RedWirez interface in Shred 1.5x

Postby Ken McLaren » Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:35 pm

Here's basically how it worked out..
We were developing Shred 2 and 2 things happened. First I have never liked the name Shred because it pigeon holed the software and a lot of people that would have tried it, did not because they thought it was a metal Shred amp only, and honestly, its much more than that. So, at the same time I was revisiting some design specs for our "Head Case" development that I have wanted to build for at least a year. A lot of these design specs ended up in Shred 1.5x along thew way and Shred 2 would have ended up being really similar to Head Case. So, I went to the pre-purchase group and asked them if we could upgrade Shred 2 to head case standards and specs, and they came back with a resounding Hell YEAH!

What exactly head case is..
Head case comprises more than one software, it has a head building component that allows you to design and skin your own heads, As part of this software is a Head shrink utility called 'Freud', this software packages up your head design into what we call PPF files and can then be added to the Head Case. Hence the name Head Case, its a case full of heads. PPF files are relatively small and are completely free for the creator to distribute, in fact they own the copyright for the heads they create, its their creative work.

We didn't want to create another static suite of software, we wanted a dynamic suite where the heads are always changing and new ones always available.

Head case comes in 2 flavors, more will be added later. Modern, and Old School, these are separate suites. There are also stand alone versions of the Head Case for those that don't want to run a suite, its a simple VST head that uses PPF files.

As part of the Head Case suite spec, we have to upgrade all the cabinets from Shred 2. iFace is part of that, he new Filter cabs are part of that, and the new Standard Cabs are part of that. Each of these cabs will also be available as stand alone VST plugs as well.

Shred 2(Head Case GES) pre-purchasers are getting the 2 Head Case suites, the 2 stand alone heads that use PPF files, all the cabs, all the stomps, and the new ABG drive Amp suite for the cost of $25 + Pay Pal charges.

Price list is as follows
Head Case Old School Suite $25
Head Case modern Suite $25
(When you buy the suite the 'Freud' is also included, as is the single PPF Heads)
Head case Old School PPF head $10
Head case Modern PPF head $10
Single Standard Cabs $20
Single Filter Cabs $20
Single iFace $20

Thats why even though iFace will be available as a single purchase, it makes sense to join the Pre-purchase group while we're still holding it. To answer your question about how long its going to run for, I honestly don't know.

This is sort of a way of us saying thank you to the pre-purchase group for believing in this enough to allow us to change directions. So far it has been the right choice...Unfortunately for me though, it added a mountain of work, but I believe that hard work in this endeavour is the only key we need.
haha and patience..:)

Hopefully that helps..
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Re: About the RedWirez interface in Shred 1.5x

Postby Flaming » Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:27 pm

Great! Where do I go to do a pre purchase? ? ?

What is the difference between the old school and modern head case Suite? ? ?

Can I try them now as with iFace? ? ?

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