Guide to Tone Pt5

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Re: Guide to Tone Pt5

Postby Alu » Wed May 07, 2008 2:24 pm

You mean you have 4 different rhythm guitar parts?
Simply record one track for each... you'll still have 4 tracks...
If you have 3... that could be a problem, you have to decide... but if you have 3 or 4 different guitar parts, you're probably talking about lead guitars too!
Quadtracking is for rhythm only... for leads you should use other tracks, one if you want to have a guitar in the center (i.e. solos), 2 if you want to pan the leads, if, for example, you have harmonies...
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Re: Guide to Tone Pt5

Postby Norznorz » Wed May 07, 2008 2:56 pm

Yeah, thanks a lot!
So, for Harmonics in the lead guitar, I have to pan the two tracks one on the left and the other on the right?
Than, for solos...AT THE CENTER...
Thanks for yours precious advices...really.
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Re: Guide to Tone Pt5

Postby Alu » Wed May 07, 2008 2:59 pm

Yeah...
I would suggesto to not pan harmony leads too hard, to keep them separate from the rhythm... let's say 50% L/R it's a good starting point for me...

Do whatever works for you btw! There are no rules when comes to taste...
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Re: Guide to Tone Pt5

Postby EasySleazy » Wed May 07, 2008 10:52 pm

Norznorz wrote:Than, for solos...AT THE CENTER...


Yes mostly, but you can pan it too. For example, if you listen to Testament's "Low", you'll notice a slight panning in the solo track. It's a single track, but it is panned to the left just a little.
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Re: Guide to Tone Pt5

Postby Marwen » Mon May 12, 2008 10:35 pm

This is an attempt to record 6 tracks (3 left, 3 right), I also thought I might try (for the first time lol) to get a good tone out of GR3 without any impulses, here is a clip I recorded in like 5 minutes: http://www.filefreak.com/pfiles/49889/clip_03.mp3

I just want to know what you think about the tone (ignore the riff, it sucks). No impulses used.

EDIT: Okay here's a better one imo: http://www.filefreak.com/pfiles/49889/clip_04.mp3
What do you guys think?
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Re: Guide to Tone Pt5

Postby triad1 » Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:15 pm

Thanx Easy for the great tutorials :D

The one with the impulses is really a great one, and helped me a lot.

Thanx again

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Re: Guide to Tone Pt5

Postby EasySleazy » Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:31 pm

Glad you like em!

A lot of things can be done with the panning. For example, I used to pan the guitars 100-100 and 80-80 (quadtracked). But in a clip I did a few days ago, I panned the guitars 90-90 and 60-60. The 60-60 tracks were 5db lower than the other two. The rhythm guitars had some small parts that had harmonies. Instead of panning the tracks in a way that the harmonies would be completely separated (for example, all the right guitars would play the notes F - G - A and all the left guitars would play A - B - C), I kinda blended the tracks. The 90% right track plays F-G-A, the 60% right track (which is 5 db lower) plays A-B-C. Same for the left track. What doesn't change is that the 90-90 tracks are done with the same tone. Same for the 60-60 tracks. the It sounded great, better than my previous setting I think.
In order of course to understand the differences you HAVE TO USE HEADPHONES! I can't imagine myself panning the guitars without using headphones!
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Re: Guide to Tone Pt5

Postby ARIBAI » Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:14 pm

(might be a dumb question)

but why exactly MONO tracks?
what happens if you record 4 stereo tracks and pan them lets say 90-90 and 60-60?

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Re: Guide to Tone Pt5

Postby bfloyd6969 » Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:09 am

All this talk about quadtracking has got me curious. Till now, I've always used the double tracking and experimented with different panning options to see what sounded best for the project (i.e. 100-100, 80-80, 50-50 30-30, etc). The idea of having four tracks does sound like a monster guitar sound could be had. My question - what if you recorded two tracks of guitars and made four tracks out them? Example would be guitar track 1 panned 100 left, guitar track 2 panned 100 right - guitar track 2 panned 80 left, and guitar track 1 panned 80 right. Keeping the different recorded tracks on different sides should keep cancelation issues out of the picture. Anyone try this? It just seems that having two recorded track would be easier to keep tighter than four...

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Re: Guide to Tone Pt5

Postby Alu » Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:48 pm

bfloyd6969 wrote:My question - what if you recorded two tracks of guitars and made four tracks out them? Example would be guitar track 1 panned 100 left, guitar track 2 panned 100 right - guitar track 2 panned 80 left, and guitar track 1 panned 80 right. Keeping the different recorded tracks on different sides should keep cancelation issues out of the picture. Anyone try this? It just seems that having two recorded track would be easier to keep tighter than four...

This will totally fuck the stereo image.
The same track panned 100% L and 80% R (or viceversa) will sound like a mono track panned 10% L (or 10% R in the viceversa case) with a higher volume.
This means that you'll end up with a pretty much mono centered guitar tone using 4 tracks...

If you copy-paste a track and pan it without using a little delay, it won't cause phase cancellation, but the opposite, amplitude summing. You'll still have a mono sound.

You CAN'T get a natural 4 tracked tone if you don't QUAD TRACK.
No way.
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Re: Guide to Tone Pt5

Postby rishabhcv » Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:32 pm

your a guitar rig expert. thanks


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